The consolidated talents of an American self-confessed city girl and a Cardiganshire farmer have led to a very healthy business in the heart of the Teifi valley.
The Chuckling Goat launched in 2014 when Texan former radio talk show host Shann Nix-Jones joined Welsh farmer Richard Jones, whose cultural roots are immersed deep in his 25-acre farm, near Brynhoffnant, Llandysul, to produce kefir from goat milk.
The company is now a thriving enterprise with customers across the globe. But despite the obvious temptations to move to an industrial unit closer to the transport infrastructure, the couple has resisted in order to develop their processing capacity on the original farm.
Sustainability and development in harmony with the land and the environment lie at the heart of the companyâs operation. The Joneses are proud of the fact that the building where the kefir is produced, which contains packing areas, fermentation units, a labelling facility and a staff canteen, is sunk into the ground and surrounded by more than 2,000 trees so that it almost disappears into the landscape.
It is all part of a guiding principle built on family values and development in harmony with the natural order. Richard says: âShann always says itâs like the circle of life. The goats produce the muck, the muck goes on the fields, the fields then are harvested for hay – we still make traditional small bales – and the goats eat the hay. Itâs a full circle.â
The beginnings of the Chuckling Goat can be found in a mix of tenacious innovation and coincidence. Now married, the couple had decided to keep a goat as they felt that its raw milk might help relieve their sonâs bronchial illness but soon realised they had excess milk each day.
Shann, full of energy said:
âI kept thinking, weâve got goats. How can we use the goatsâ milk? Where is the opportunity there? That’s the way my mind always works. That’s what I bring to the equation; how is this an opportunity?â
Shannâs âEureka momentâ came when she heard a Russian doctor talking about goatâs milk kefir and its therapeutic qualities on the radio. Her mind racing, she contacted the doctor to learn how to make the highest standard of therapeutic kefir.
As she listened, she realised that they had found their opportunity. The doctor advised her to use goatsâ milk instead of cowsâ milk, use real, living kefir grains and never add sugar or flavourings because these things will degrade the probiotics. Itâs a set of principles that the company lives by still.
Kefir is a cultured, fermented milk drink, similar to yoghurt â but thinner in consistency. It is also a good source of calcium and is rich in probiotic bacteria essential for gut health.
Richard said:
âWe thought we should be able to make that, so we made some in the kitchen. The taste needed some work, but it was very, very healthy. It just went from there. From literally making things in the kitchen sink to what you see today.
âIt started like that. Within five years we had a massive increase in turnover. I employ 24 staff here now. Weâve only got about 30 goats because I havenât got the land so unfortunately we have to buy in the bulk of our milk which isnât ideal, but itâs the way itâs got to be.â
Central to the operation are the goats. Richard explains: âThe goats will graze on rough fields. Theyâll always run to the hedges and nibble away at them.
âWe buy in natural feedstuffs for them. I refuse to buy anything with soya in because Iâm a bit dubious about what it does. People have kept goats for centuries. Ours are just bred to produce more milk than they would have done centuries ago.â
Richard added: âFarming-wise I think we are very sustainable because weâre doing it in as old-fashioned a way that we can. We’ve got thick hedges and weâve planted more hedges.
âWeâve also planted 2,000 trees in the last couple of years. The goats will graze on rough fields. Thereâs no reason why people in a hundred years time canât keep goats exactly the same way that weâre doing.â
The company puts an emphasis on employing family and local people, many of whom join straight from school and who become part of an extended family, all intended to enhance the local economy.
Richard says:
âTheyâre buying their fuel locally. Theyâre buying quite a bit of their food locally. Itâs a slightly different angle on sustainability, but we are helping to provide employment for the local Londis mini market when two or three of us go up every day to buy lunch.
âHaving our business here contributes to the rural economy and we are involved in the community. My five year old grandson goes to the local primary school as well and weâre hoping it will continue in that way.â
As the company – and the profits – grew, so did the logistical scale of the process and the couple had to move its operation out of the kitchen into a specially adapted barn and later into a custom-designed building. On busy weeks they now process up to 10,000 litres of goatâs milk shipped in each week by tanker.
The family also developed a range of award-winning kefir based skincare products especially effective in treating conditions such as psoriasis and eczema.
It was a new way of working for Shann, who has learned a new way of being connected to her family, business and community since coming to Wales.
âComing from America, we slash and burn. Thatâs the way it is. We get it from the pioneers. You move into an area, you slash and burn it and you farm it for a little bit and and as soon as you see neighbours on the horizon itâs time to move on,â she said. âThatâs the old model. The way we operate our business now is the opposite of that.â
For Richard, with his roots deep in the land and the farming community, the concept of sustainability was simply a responsible, traditional way to do business. He said: âSustainability doesnât mean the same thing to all people. To me, sustainability means looking after the land to make sure it can keep on giving. Weâve got to give to it,before it can give back to us.â
Shann agreed: âI think sustainability is also about relationships. You have a relationship with the land – you donât just dump all over it. You pay attention to it. What does the land need? What does the land want? What do you have to do to take care of the land? You donât just drain all the goodness out of it, dump all your rubbish there and leave.
âThatâs an emotional one for me because being American I never had a sense of place and rootedness. Rich has deep connections to his sense of place and rootedness. Itâs the Welsh concept of âPerthynâ so I learned that lesson with great joy.â
Sustainability lies at the very core of Chuckling Goat; both personally and in a broader sense. Of the 24 staff that work for the company, several are drawn from Richardâs family and live in newly built houses on the farm.
Doing things as a family is at the core of everything they do. Itâs not only the physical harvesting of a crop but the bonding experience it brings in its wake. Richard cites a recent potato harvest to emphasise the point.
He says: âWe grow our own potatoes. Itâs only about an acre of potatoes that we grow and we had four generations picking. My mother in law is eighty-two and Iâve got two two-year-old and one five year old as grandchildren.
âWe were all there picking potatoes. It might not have been cost effective in terms of cash; you can buy potatoes very cheaply. But it benefited the ground having it turned over; having a different crop on it; and it definitely benefited our family both mentally and physically.â
Shann adds: âMy eighty-two year old mother was sitting there in the camp chair watching, and all the little grandchildren were playing, eating mud, potatoes, and worms and getting dirty. It was brilliant. Thatâs what weâve got to keep doing. We hope after our day they will keep these traditions alive.â
As Richard reflects on how he farms, he speaks about the role farmers play as guardians of the land and the environment. He is currently working to cultivate some newly acquired fields. Combining family preferences, commercial and environmental needs is something that comes naturally.
âThe field is three and a half acres and had been left to go wild by the previous owners. The goats have now eaten the brambles back, and Iâve cut a few gorse bushes back to make it accessible. We are making it usable for my children and my childrenâs children. There’s a pond, and my grandkids love playing there.
âIf weâd let it go wild like the previous owner had and listened to his argument youâd end up with a jungle. Itâs no good for my grandchildren to have a field of ten foot high brambles that you canât walk through.â
It is the blend of traditional and cutting edge that allows the Chuckling Goat to thrive and move forward in tune with environmental necessities at its heart.
Now the couple want to expand their findings about gut health. The latest scientific research indicates that gut health can affect a whole range of seemingly unconnected health conditions from psoriasis to anxiety.
Chuckling Goat currently sells a Microbiome Test that shows bacterial populations inside the gut, and can track residual infections from food poisoning, UTIs or dental infections that may have been sitting inside the system for decades.
The company is currently preparing to launch their own Microbiome Test, in cooperation with Cambridge University, which is planned for 2022.
Shann says:
âWe have recently hired distinguished microbiologist Dr. Miguel Toribio-Mateas as our Head of Research and Development, and together we are working on various scientific publications. Donât be fooled by the nice views. Weâve got some cutting edge research going on here.â
Next up for the couple is yet another innovative enterprise called Anaâs Farmacy, designed to produce medically therapeutic food that is local, sustainable, and gut healthy.
âI would like to buy wonky veg from local organic growers who otherwise would be discarded. So weâll be dealing with the problem of food waste as well. Weâre going to make chutneys, pickles and herbal vinegars that have therapeutic benefits,â says Shann.
The couple are using their experience and knowledge gained in developing Chuckling Goat to perpetuate their ideals.
Shann concludes: âIt has to be good from the ground up. Good for the microbes in the soil, good plants, good for the animals, people, community, customers and planet. If it’s not good all the way down then itâs not sustainable. And if itâs not sustainable – weâre not interested. Weâre here to prove that you can do well, by doing good.â
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